Nation has failed to recognise father of nation !!!

[Severus]

bepar is not about good leader or good ruler or good officer , the question is about father of the nation status

[nisargo]

ami jani.....
kintu somosa ta holo iblish vai er post ta porar por amar mone holo kisu elo melo tottho niye ekta jinish dar korano hosse ami sei ukti gula khondon korte chacchilam..desh niya kotha boar somoy kneo jani sab samay sothik pothe cholte pari na

seikh mujib ke jodi keu jair pita mantte nai chan jothesto jukti songoto karon thaka dorkar..esob elo melo karon toiri kore seta korar kono mane nei..
karon take jatir pita bola hosse puro bangladesh er jonmer pisone unar vumika e rkotha chinta kore..
kajei biruddhe bolte gele aro specific karon thakte hobe..
ami je karone unkae jatir pita bolte chai na setar karon holo amr mone hoe bangladesher jonmer pisone unar moto aro oneker hat ase..oneker oporishim attotyag ase...ebong uni jei vumika palon korechen tar pisone tader o bishal vumika ase...unar bangladesher jatisotar vumikake jodi 71 purboborti ebong 71 poroborti samay dhore chinta kora jae...tahole dekha jae71 er poroborti te uni
jatir jonno se rokom kono diknirdesok vumika nite paren ni...hoito proshasok hisebe uni onke durbol chilne..kintu overall dekhe jodi take hiseb kora hoe unake jatir pita hisebe bola jaena..tobe uni je bangladesher jonmerpisoner ekjon prodhan purush seta nissondehe sotto..ebong se hisebe unake puro somman deoa uchit..jeta un ekhon pan ni..unake doliyo bibechona kore onek samay e uanr prappo somman theek unkae bonchito kora hoe..

[Masoom]

I didn’t want to get involved with this debate due to past experience but also couldn’t resist myself seeing all this lovely words being said about a person that done a lot for us but with less intention for the following people and more self pride, selfishness.

I understand from few above posts that anything against Sheikh Mujib will be declared as false information by wording of self belief.

Sheikh Mujib wanted Bakshal rule and what would that mean to democracy that today we are so proud of?

His son was a known criminal without any doubts, who also tried robbing the Bangladesh Bank which was witnessed by senior police officers who only later changed their verdict and I don’t need to explain why someone arrests Sheikh Kamal and only change the verdict after contacts with Sheikh Mujib and that the next day.

Indian army was also asked to stay back by Sheikh Mujib who looted every thing the Pak army left as it is an obligation under international law that after any war you leave behind all infractures etc, and now would people tell me that all this happened and our so called father of nation didn’t know?

Why were the names of many leaders wiped of?

Why was sheikh Kamal allowed to freely roam down the streets when most people knew he was burglar, desperado, looter, and any names can be found in the dictionary for criminals?

In a democracy why should such leader with so many criminal records be the leading body while many other professional leaders were discredited or asked to follow orders from a criminal with hardly any knowledge or professionalism to lead a country or its people? This surly indicates that Sheikh Mujib had no idea what he was doing and also a bad weak leader wanting the best for his kids and not the peoples.

I have much more to say but I think anyone wanting to understand my point, this will be enough or nothing as this is a very complex debate. I also will like to make my self clear, I support no political parties and I am from United Kingdom, who takes no interest in Bangladeshi politics, I am only being part of this complex debate because I love my fellow country man and want to share part of my findings.

[nisargo]

only 1 thing i wanna say
who said we the bangladeshis r proud of our democracy?did u know how many people curse the democracy for the last 15 years..did u have any idea of the politics of today and we r not proud of it...sorry ..period


another thing how do u know that we have false information and ur's information is true?

sorry again to al
actually now it is becoming more like an off topic...

[Masoom]

Because I have only used details that is known to all.

Like bakshal rule needs no explaining of the consequences.
No doubts in anyone’s mind about sheikh Kamal being a known criminal.
No doubts India taking all aforementioned but you can debate that it was without the will of Sheikh Mujib and co but then logically it was impossible for foreign power to take anything of such high content without government approval.

So as you can see I have used none theories but all facts that we all know, just see it positively or negatively.

However if you disagree and try proving your points which will indicate that you are serious about what you are saying with reasons, then I will post my findings and evidence supporting my post.

About, "do i know how many curse democracy?" we all do! it just depends how many you know because majority i know, love democracy but hate corruption.

[nisargo]

and when does this country has democracy without corruption?..

okk..now lets go to topic...eikhane jei topic niye alochna hosse ta holo seikh mujib father of the nation hisebe jothajoggo somman deoa hoe nai
unake father of tyhe nation bola jae kina seta niye amio kisuta dhidhannito..kintu uni je somman paoer joggo ebong seta take deoa hoe nai seta thik...
karon je jai boluk 71 er muktijuddher mul netritto chilo unar hatei...ekta sofol andoler jonno ekjon sofol neta dorkar sabsamay e..ebong seikh mujib seta palon korechen....sei vumika ke kono vabei khato kore dekhar obokkash nei...
sei somman tao uni jakla pachen na..eta puropuri satti..

well ami mone hoe eki kotha abr bar boltesi...kajei amar ei topic niye ar kisu bolar nai
ar massom vai ...amid efinitely sei sab proof dekhte chaabo ja proman kore 71 e mujib ja korehen ta silo nijer jonno
a bakshal,seikh kamal ghotonar ami kono montobo korbo a ei karonei jehetu apni bolchen apnar kase valo proman ase se sab niye...age sei gulo somondhe jante chai tarpor na hoe kotha bolbo

[Force_Recon]

I am kind of divided.don't know how to express it.I respect Sheikh Mujib despite the formation of Baksal and all.He cared about our sovereignity more than his daughter ever did.Maybe I do accept him the father of the nation,but I hate idol worshipping ANYONE.I mean recently ,some AL member said it was disgusting that the joint forces searched Hasina's house as she was the daughter of the father of the nation.see where it creates problems?and we have to worsip Sajib Wajed Joy too as his Grandad was the Father of the Nation.
so like I said I got mixed feelings about this issue.

[Severus]

masoom : abraham lincon er pola jodi serial killer hoy taile ki tare americar honourable position theke shorano hobe ? vladimir lelin ar phidel castro ki kharap lok ?

[nisargo]

exactly....seikh mujib ke sudhu tar kajer jonnoi mullayon kora uchit..na tar chele ki koreche ba onno keu ki koreche...

[NionAlo]

Nation bartho hoi nai, nation ka sujok daoa hoi nai! er jonno dai kisu serto lovi kukhato lok !
Nation mane ai amrai / amder modha thake kisu / kau na kau ak din asol sotto ta janer jonno Rastai nabay , Misil hobay , andolon hoba, tokhon asol sotto taber kora er jonno manush sochhar hoba, tobai na Bangladesh janbay ka !Father Of Nation! .