Tumar nah Amar?

[Numb_with_Rage]

weird title.. i kno. but read on... u will get it.

Creative jogotey internationally, shobai nijekey onek bhalo bhabey express korchey at the same time jokhon writer's block hochey ono jon er work "niye" nijer bola hochey. gal fulano hochey, onek part niwa hochey.

eyta ki thik?
general question.

shob kichu exclude korey lets focus on music. ekta gaan er jono j koto effort/time ebong patience laggey hoyto normal listeners kokhono o bujhbey nah.
cuz we do not live it. kintu amader taste amader criticism is wat decides who is on top... and who is not.

same reason why... behind the scenes ki hochey nah hochey. most of us wouldn't kno. some people are talented and disciplined. in turn they are unstoppable. eyrokom khub kom manush achey. a self-made person.

some are okay... kintu ono jon er work dhar niye pura nijerey banai felley.

others are talented kintu chipai porey jai.. karon oder spirit, oder trust bhanga hoy. emon situation banano hoy jeno ora gaan itself ee cherey dey.

eyta ki thik?

ami shobshumoy boli... everyne is a chor. kichu merey nijer bolar jono agroho onek beshi, r credit diwar belai, ek futa o agroho nai.

does it really make u all that by claiming u did everything by urself?
the sarcastic crew will go "YES NUMBY DUH"
but objectively chinta korey dekhen... if u say "yes this person helped me, shur uni korechey, but lekhechi ami, bah amra jamming kortam and ey bhai bah oi bon eyta tey onek suggestions diyechey ey jono ey gaan ta aito bhalo hoysey." does it make u any less of an artist?

u r simply stating facts. u r still considered a gud singer/composer/song-writer for understanding and recognizing wat is gud and wat is crap.

manush k ektu ador bah respect dilley ki hoy? they r not asking for anything else. they just want u to clear the fact of the original creator.

most common example dey amar environment er. i see many ppl admiring hindi remixes. akhon mix ta jodi bhalo hoy.. mixer k appreciate kora hoy at the same time old original singers/composers der kotha o chinta kora hoy. if a lot of the bollywood oldies is back, if the old geniuses are still alive its cuz oder gaan akhono play kora hoy radio tey.

and the young crowd goes wild for the new mixers/singers.
now u tell me.. does that make them any less of an artist for remembering their idols and admitting they remade a lot of the songs?

oder fan base tao onek achey.

politics exist everywhere i understand. so music industry tey o obviously achey. unfortunately.
kintu humanity bolley o ekta kotha asey.

kaj tah tumar nah amar does it really matter?
tailey kaj ta je amar tumar boltey aito koshto keno hoy?

ami bhalo bujhey, ador korey tumakey amar ideas. amar advice, amar work dilam. tumakey worthy banailam of appreciation, tumi amakey credit dila nah.

eyta ki thik?

theres nothing i hate.. more than ppl who dont admit they got help from someone, or do not mention the real names of the creators.

eyta ekta big issue... and happens everywhere..
so how do u feel abt it? and wat do u think we can do to avoid it? or solve the situation if it arises?

[dead_eyez]

some are okay... kintu ono jon er work dhar niye pura nijerey banai felley.

others are talented kintu chipai porey jai.. karon oder spirit, oder trust bhanga hoy. emon situation banano hoy jeno ora gaan itself ee cherey dey.

eyta ki thik?

ami shobshumoy boli... everyne is a chor. kichu merey nijer bolar jono agroho onek beshi, r credit diwar belai, ek futa o agroho nai.

u are soo truee...dhar kore na..i know some mu-s-i-cia-n-s..akhon to shob are instrument based music na..studio work kore onekei track ber korche...so emon kichu mu-s-i-cia-n-s[lol]..jader gaan shune manush jon chokh bondho kore thake ghontar por ghonta amazed hoye..jai hok..so ei shob artist ja kore sheta hocche..dey buy a composition with a certain amount of money..den dey release dat song in a mixed album or solo album..bas uni EKAI HERO....cd jokhon release hoi..tokhon icche hole ashol composer ke akta thanx dei..na hole tao dei na..

but dosh dui side er e ache..akjon composer keno ebhabe akta song arek jon er kaache sell korbe..shobai money bujhe..dats the main prob..dey shud have come up with a contract with dat mu-s-i-cia-n..je i will give u the composition n apni amar ai gaan ta geye den..tahole dujonei focused hocche...other wise chor ra ebhabe churi kortei thakbe..n talented ra chipai e thakbe..

[Numb_with_Rage]

yeh...

true...

but thread idea came wen childhood friends whom are now musicians do shit like that to each other.

mejaj gorom hoy nah?

and i kno how hard it is to stick up against ppl u luv the most.
and wen they take ure work. u feel betrayed nd used.

[Gemini]

Numby, first of all darun ekta thread khulechho. Very thought provoking. Kotha gula ja bolecho, khubi shotti. Keu kauke credit dite chae na, newar belae shobai ek paaye khara. The singers specially they get the most exposure and credits. Kintu tader pechono koto manush thake. Ekta jokhon hit gaan ber hoy, hoyto onno keu ei gaan ta likhechen, onno keu compose korechen.

Ekta singer jokhon dariye ekta gaan perform kore amra shudhu taakei dekhi kintu eta bhule jai je aaj je shey ekhane dariye achhe, tar pichone kotto manusher obodaan ache. Tara ki thik moto shey credit gulo pae? In most cases, no they don't get as much credit as they deserve.

And Dead Eyez ja bollo "but dosh dui side er e ache..akjon composer keno ebhabe akta song arek jon er kaache sell korbe..shobai money bujhe..dats the main prob..dey shud have come up with a contract with dat mu-s-i-cia-n..je i will give u the composition n apni amar ai gaan ta geye den..tahole dujonei focused hocche...other wise chor ra ebhabe churi kortei thakbe..n talented ra chipai e thakbe.."

Very true. Ei bebostha gula thik moto newa hoy na dekhei joto problem. Mukher kothar to kono daam nai. Music industry ekta business ar eikhane you have to be smart and try your best to protect yourself and your creation in everyway. Business korte gele you can't just base everything on trust and word of mouth, er jonno paperworks o laage. Kintu arekta jinish o hocche je amader deshe shob cheye boro problem holo taka ebong mamar jor. Jar ei duita achhe tar kono talent na thakleo chole. Etao ekta karon why the talented ones often fall behind

[Numb_with_Rage]

i kno few talented ppl jara r guitar ee dhortey chai nah just cuz they have been backstabbed

they gave up wat they were gud at.. ey shob shunley kar matha thik thakke?

[Gemini]

^^ But giving up so fast just because you've been backstabbed....is kinda illogical aint it? Talent thakle you have to work hard on establishing it. You can't just give up like that Duniyate keu kauke etto easily encourage kore na, help kore na. Borong chaae succeed hote kemne badha dewa jae. Even kachher manush gulao. Ekta kotha amar ekta Prof. prai bole "Be less concerned with the product and more concerned with the process". Ekjon shilpir taar bhetorer shilpo ke (asholei bhalobashle) kokhonoi obhabe chhure fele dewa uchit nah just because he/she won't get much out of it (like fame or a lot of recognition) for a certain group of people

[Numb_with_Rage]

i totally agree apu. lolz but aru kichu nishchoy hoysey. karon giving up just oi reasoney. amaro shuntey weird lagtasey

but yeh.. it does hurt... i guess futurey ora abar shuru korbey but right now no. lolz

[Gemini]

I hope soon...karon eibhabe nijer bhetorer shilpi ke borjon kore dile hobe ki kore?

[shmegel]

Numby love, I think the topic you have raised is very important, but you have said so many things in ur first post I'm finding it difficult to pick up something from it to base my post on!! If you don't mind api, can you please write me a short paragraph which sums up what you've said in your first post?

[Numb_with_Rage]

hahahaha

shmegel apu. acha. basically ek artist arek artist er jinish churi korey or steal compositions of ppl that r not famous yet. underground ppl r ki.

so my frustration was only abt that. j manush credit dey nah ken? use koro bhalo kotha
at least credit dao?

umm hope i explained it nicely? lolz

tc